loupylass, Your right about learning to say no, it's very difficult (I'm admittedly probably a bit of a control freak too!)but I'm learning to sit back and let others do things Iv'e always done myself, I'm madly adding up finances to see if it's possible to give up work, the cost would probably just be my clothes fetish, which in fact I can entirely do without, especially if I'm not going to meetings etc. I live about 3 1/2 hours from my doctor, not as far as you but must this pain under control it's truly debilitating, endone and oxycontin just don't seem keep it in check and only work for a short time, do you experience this also? glad to hear you enjoy your latte, amazing how thrilling little things can be, like tasting coffee...wow