November 2013
Hi Melbourne boy born in the eighties
I was 52 when I was diagnosed with a Gleason 9 tumour. The Gleason score is a measure of how bad the cancer is and is made up of the two worst number from the biopsy. The pathologist scores why they see under the microscope on a scale of one to 5 depending on how bad they look and then the Gleason score is the sum of the two worst scores. Mine was actually 5 + 4 meaning that there were more 5 cells than 4 cells. So far it hasn't made it to my bones. However, the standard treatment is what your father is having - hormone therapy and this will cause the cancer to shrink, hence the pain relief your father is getting. Drugs to strengthen the bones are a good thing and there are also some newer agents that have come out of clinical trials that are very effective against prostate cancer in the bones. That is why I suggested seeing about clinical trials. Your Dad should have a long way to go with lots of different treatments available to help him in the future. Radiotherapy, when it is necessary, is very effective at reducing bone pain.
Getting support - several options here. Ring the Helpline 13 11 20 and ask to talk with a cancer connect volunteer. Get in touch with the Prostate Cancer Foundation of Australia as they have a network of support groups.
Cheers
Sailor
My goal in sailing isn't to be brilliant or flashy in individual races, just to be consistent over the long run. Dennis Conner
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November 2013
Hi Anere
Being on hormone therapy is like having a really bad case of menopause, except that it lasts longer. When I first went on it it was really bad. Mood changes, personality changes, hot flushes, cognitive dysfunction. Of course no-one tells you that this will happen as there has been little research done on it so there is hop evidence base for it! However, over time I learnt to cope with the symptoms and manage them better. Instead of getting frustrated at not remembering simply things I made notes of everything. Wherever I am likely to be, I have a small fan - I think they cost me $10 at Bunnings. So when a hot flush comes, I just turn on the fan. Learning that other people had similar symptoms also helped me to understand that I was not alone in this.
Fifteen years later I am still on hormone therapy. Still have the effects but I manage them rather than letting them manage me. So fear I have been through menopause every eighteen months - six months on and twelve months off has been my regime, so that is ten times through menopause!
Cheers
Sailor
And when men lose confidence and trust in those who lead, order disintegrates into chaos and purposeful ships into uncontrollable derelicts. Wall Street Journal Editorial 1952
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November 2013
G'day there good folks
It is about time I gave people an update on where I am currently in my journey. Earlier this year I was on a clinical trial that gave me three good months and then the experimental drug stopped working. Then the mass in the abdomen starting strangling the left ureter, the tube that drains from the kidney to the bladder. Very uncomfortable! So after quite a few trips to hospital I now have lots of plastic plumbing, all of which I am assured will be temporary. In September I started chemotherapy. Three cycles so far and I have been tolerating the chemo well. Hair and beard have gone and one of my friends unkindly suggested that I bore a striking resemblance to the death mask of Ned Kelly in the Old Melbourne Gaol. The old adage who needs enemies when you have friends comes to mind! The major side effect has been on fast. Everything tastes bland, red wine taste awful and good single malt also! I've gone back to a drink from forty years ago - campari and tonic, coupled with lots of spicy food.
What is the game plan from now? Chemo for probably another four months, then when things settle down more surgery to get rid of the plastic plumbing. That is of course that the chemo works. So far the indications are that it is.
Cheers
Sailor
I keep sailing on in this middle passage. I am sailing into the wind and the dark. But I am doing my best to keep my boat steady and my sails full. Arthur Ashe
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November 2013
Hi Melbourne boy
I was diagnosed with an aggressive prostate cancer, probably already metastatic fifteen years ago. I'm still here! Ten years ago I asked my medical oncologists what my prognosis was and he said five to ten years, albeit rather reluctantly. That was ten years ago and I have just started some chemotherapy and everyone os optimistic that I'll be around for another five years at least.
I suggest get a second opinion and ask about the full range of options available, particularly some of the newer agents. It may mean going on a clinical trial, but hey that is worth it.
Cheers
Sailor
An incorrectly identified mark is a hazard, not an aid, to navigation. Alton B. Moody
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September 2013
Hi there
In the past fifteen years since I was diagnosed with cancer I have been treated in large public, large private, private attached to large public and small private. My current chemo is in a large private, and my clinical trial chemo earlier this year was in a large public. I have just spent considerable time over the last three months in a private attached to a large public and was shuttled back and forth between the two systems for various procedures, tests and surgery. The present large public offers me all the same supportive care and ancillary services as the large public earlier this year. My worst experience has been in the small public, where following surgery I had a three way bladder washout catheter in place and they flushed me with fluid taken straight from the 5 degree refrigerator where they stored it!! When I complained there response was "Who did I want sacked!"
The best of both worlds is to be the private patient in the public hospital.
Cheers
Sailor
A journey by Sea and Land, Five Hundred Miles, is not undertaken without money. Lewis Hallam
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September 2013
Hi Kathyhtak
Not a lot of difference in effectiveness but carboplatin is a milder drug. Less likely to get high frequency hearing loss and kidney damage. This means that they can give doses that may be more effective. Still a danger of nerve damage.
Cheers
Sailor
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June 2013
Hi Everyone
Well here I am in hospital since last Monday and here for some time while things get sorted. It turns out that I had developed septicaemia due to a pseudomonas infection as well as having the ureteral stent blocking. The only problem was that instead of going up my blood pressure went seriously down, and my temperature remained normal. So I am proposing three suggestions for medical people, particularly nurses.
1. Observe your patient
2. Listen to your patient - they know far more about themselves and their symptoms than you do.
3. Respect your patient - they have managed this disease far longer than you have.
Let me illustrate from this last two weeks experience.
Blood pressure going down and having blackouts. Saw my GP, who thought it was a good thing and reduced my blood pressure medication. I didn't have a temperature therefore could not have an infection, it must all be due to a reaction to the clinical trial drug I am on. That no one else out of hundreds on the trial have reported blood pressure drop seemed irrelevant. Rang/emailed other specialists who really didn't seem concerned as the initial kidney pain had gone - 'must have passed whatever was blocking the stent'. It was only when I said I have had more serious blackouts, I am peeing urine the colour of a good Shiraz and I am in pain, that it was suggested I better get to hospital that afternoon, booked for theatre the next day. By this time my skin was yellow with purple blotches everywhere.
Get into hospital, get through the paperwork barrier quickly and up to the ward. Ward reception tell me the room is not ready yet and to wait in the waiting area. So the Chief of Domestic Operations and I sit there for an hour, me looking awful and in pain, with a succession of nurses passing and taking no notice. Get taken down to the room and left. After another hour the CDO is getting pretty annoyed, so go back to reception, who tell her 'we can't understand why he is in today, he's booked for theatre tomorrow and we have to look after those booked for theatre today!' The CDO is a former Triage nurse from a large Emergency Department, so she let them have a piece of her mind and came back and told me that she had made me a few enemies. By this time I an lying there feeling really cold and shaking violently. Eventually a nurse turns up and asks if I have Parkinson's Disease - I think I told her to read the paperwork. She wrote her name up on the whiteboard and left, didn't go through the paperwork or deal with the large bag of medication I had brought with me. The CDO found the blanket cupboard and piled a few more blankets on me. My urologist turned up and brought a renal physician with him, who took one look, went away, came back with the charge nurse, read the riot act and suddenly I had a very competent nurse dealing with me. Great volumes of blood were taken and sent of to pathology, several different types of urine sample followed, drip set up, iv antibiotics and hydrocortisone started. He later told me he had never seen a patient looking so septic. So - observe your patient. If they look sick they probably are.
In the interim I had taken my medications as I was supposed to, at the time I was supposed to. That didn't go down well. As I explained - I have lived with this disease and it's side effects for a long time and I am still competent. I don't mind you managing my medications, but to do that you should have gone through them four hours ago when I was first admitted. I know when I need them, I follow the instructions to the letter and I will not have my medication regime compromised, particularly when I am on a clinical trial that is working for me. Silence - the CDO is trying hard not to laugh - and the good nurse took it well, noted down what I had taken and when and then said, OK I'll manage it now. So - respect our patient's competence, they have been managing this a lot longer than you have.
The next day into theatre. By this time I'm peeing Rose not Shiraz. Unfortunately the stent had grown barnacles and would not come out. No theatre availability for later that day, so into an ambulance, across to another campus of the same hospital, Great confusion on my arrival, but eventually into theatre and a tube inserted into the kidney to drain it out the side - a nephrostomy. So I feel as if Im trussed up like the Christmas Turkey with this bag attached for the foreseeable future. Also a normal Foley's catheter draining from the bladder. Remember I am peeing blood. So the inevitable happens - not much draining from the bladder. So I am told to increase my fluid intake. I suggest that the catheter might be blocked! No notice taken, fluid intake increased. By now I am looking like I am six months pregnant. So they decide to do a bladder wash out - standard procedure, except that I keep telling them that I have been self catheterising for ten years and that I know when a catheter is blocked and how to deal with it. So they proceed with a bladder washout. This consists of filling a 50 ml syringe with sterile saline - pushing this up through the catheter, then sucking. Nothing happens, they can't suck back on the syringe. A male nurse is sent for as he is stronger and can pull on the syringe better! I suggest the catheter is blocked and will need removing. 'No we will try again!' Three times this was attempted, an extra 150 ml of fluid into the already full bladder. The consultant is contacted who instructs them to remove the catheter and replace with a larger one - I warn them that when they do they had better have a bucket ready - 'No it will be right'. The flood was quite spectacular and they were mopping up for ages. Larger catheter goes in. OK over night, but the inevitable happens and it blocks the next day. This time the CDO is here. They suggest she might like to leave - No Way! So when they give up after three more attempts, she suggest they take the catheter out, let me do a bladder wash out using my catheters, and they do not put a Foley's back in and let me manage it myself. The consultant agrees, so out it comes - this time they are ready with the bucket and then I proceed to show them how I was taught to do a bladder washout and removed between 60 and 100 ml of clotted blood - revolting!! Now these were good nurses, giving excellent care and training in standard operating procedures and following these to the letter. However all patients are different and will not necessarily respond to SOP's, So listen to the patient - they know far more about themselves than you do.
To those three suggestions I make one more:
4. Make sure you have someone like my CDO batting on your side.
I am getting excellent care, the nurses have been wonderful, willing to learn and we now have a great relationship. If they are in the hospital but not on this ward, they drop in to see me.
Future - stay on the iv antibiotics until they can get the stent out. No oral antibiotics available for this bug. Some special scans tomorrow and then hopefully early next week back into theatre, most likely fro some lithotropy to blast the encrustation out of existence.
Cheers
Sailor
...Every master and pilot prided himself on knowing exactly how much way his ship was making. He knew the ship, he considered the wind, he watched the sails, he watched the water. In fact, it was a matter which just could not be explained to the landsman. A good sailor knew his ship, and that was all. E. G. R. Taylor
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It has been a while since I posted on this part of the site, or even commented on others posts.
Some of you will remember that I live with advanced prostate cancer. Nearly a year ago it had travelled up through the lymph nodes , wrapped itself around the tube connecting the left kidney to the bladder and strangled the plumbing. Very painful!! A stent was put in. That managed to block on Christmas day and so New Year was spent in hospital. A course of iv-antibiotics got rid of the persistent kidney infection that had set in.
Since February I have been on a clinical trial of a new drug and that seems to be working well. After an initial burst of energy as the effects of the cancer went away, the side effects of the drug kicked in - fatigue and muscle cramps. Nevertheless thee are manageable and worth it if the drug is working.
However, the kidney problems continue. So am waiting on the surgeon's opinion following a CT scan and a nuclear medicine kidney scan.
So it is another case of tighten up the main, trim the jib, and sail on through rough weather.
Cheers
Sailor
I hate storms, but calms undermine my spirits.
- Bernard Moitessier
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February 2013
Dear michele 1960
I cannot really advise here as I have no idea how many whipple procedures are done, but I would feel fairly confident in someone who has done 5 - 10 procedures a year over ten years. That's 50 - 100 that he has done. It is not as if he is new to it.
cheers
Sailor
Even now; with a thousand little voyages notched in my belt. I still feel a memorial chill on casting off. E. B. White
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February 2013
G'day
It is not just the Whipple procedure - everyone should ask their surgeon how many of these procedures have they done? The evidence is that the more procedures that they have done the better the outcomes for the patient. This is one of the reasons why less common cancers should be treated in a specialist centre.
Cheers
Sailor
...Every master and pilot prided himself on knowing exactly how much way his ship was making. He knew the ship, he considered the wind, he watched the sails, he watched the water. In fact, it was a matter which just could not be explained to the landsman. A good sailor knew his ship, and that was all. E. G. R. Taylor
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