Had cancer, got no friends.

AmandaC
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Re: Had cancer, got no friends.

RachelC – I to have experienced the whole pointless apology after lack of support from both family and friends. Sadly it feels hollow and your right those relationships change forever. Bindy – OMG! I can’t believe the mothers at school were so insensitive, they of all people should know how precious our human life is. As a school mum of a kindy kid I always reach out to those who are unwell or in need. You are an amazing woman XX TJ – I just want to give you a big hug, I can see from your picture that you have a son/daughter I know my first son kept me going when I was sick they are incredibly intuitive. In really don’t know what to say your partner does not deserve you it seems you are way to good for him/her. As for the good time friends its amazing how much we don’t notice them until we are in need, I realise how superficial my relationships must have been. No one called, no one wanted to know or asked how I was going and worst of all I was totally ignored. That 1 friend who speaks to you is a true friend which is great, you know who they are now. It has taken me 5 years to rebuild relationships by that I mean start new friendships and re-kindle a few old ones, I have never bothered with those that let me down when I was sick except a few family members. But those relationships will never be the same, what is done can never be undone I know who they truly are now so everything is on the surface if you know what I mean. This is a great place to talk to other survivors, a great place for healing. There is a wonderful online support group it helped me so much when I was in need, you should check it out XX CarlC – it is amazing how much we take things like eating and talking for granted, how incredibly rude people can be. We live in a face paced anxiety filled society and everything needs to be now. Thankyou for posting this it has reminded me how important it is to be aware of others, I think we sometimes forget especially as time goes on. Those of us who have very little Physical scars forget about those who do, thankyou again XX
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T.J
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@ CarlC & AmandaC >> Thank you so much, it's hard to put into words how you guys have made me feel. Its a strange feeling for me to have ppl not sympathize, but show empathy to my situation hey. Atm Im just cooking dinner for my kids, I rushed on line just so I can answer u guys (got notification on my phn). I'll be right back once there li'l one's are in bed.
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AmandaC
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TJ - just noticed your a single father of 3, you have your hands full. We have just had our 3rd bubba despite being toold by fertility specialist we could not have kids naturally after my husbands cancer (my husband is SteveC). Its a juggle and a half, how incredibly lucky they are to have a dad that adores them and how lucky you are to have your 3 kids keeping you strong XX
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AmandaC
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TJ - just noticed your a single father of 3, you have your hands full. We have just had our 3rd bubba despite being toold by fertility specialist we could not have kids naturally after my husbands cancer (my husband is SteveC). Its a juggle and a half, how incredibly lucky they are to have a dad that adores them and how lucky you are to have your 3 kids keeping you strong XX
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sarah
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Hi all, I've been watching and listening and I'm so deeply touched by the stories of the heartbreak that has comes with the illness (as if the illness isn't enough). I went through the same, and saying it was hard just doesn't express it - it's confusing, shocking and more. How's this for a break up line: "It's got nothing to do with the cancer, it's just that we don't have anything in common anymore, (now that you spending so much time at hospital)". I haven't had that exactly, but it encapsulates for me, the way people can twist their words, almost thinking that you not human enough anymore to see through them. I feel like I got that kind of thing a lot, it's really insulting. TJ, your tentativeness to post about this is noticed and understood and I just want to say, don't feel like you have to hold back, we all understand here. I understand when you just cannot find the right words to say what you have experienced, and you even wonder if it's better just to keep it locked away because it hurts so very much, and anyway, you are busy tagging along trying to keep up with wherever life wants to take you next. In my experience, it has been better to let it out, explore it, and discover along the way that you are not alone in the experience, and that unfortunately, it just comes with the territory of the illness. I don't think there's a lot more I can add to AmandaC, CarlC and everyone, I back everything that they have said. Thanks for sharing your journey with us. I hope this site can give you some strength. Our heart goes out to you xx
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T.J
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O.m.g, it takes my breath away, seeing how u all know how I feel. Kind of reminds me of my rugby league days' when U know ur team mate knows exactly how ur feeling, what ur thinking and ur next move. Yea I do feel like I need to hold back Sarah, the ppl in my life ether make me feel weak and pathetic. or the make out like what they've done to me is justifiable yea. So Im going to pass the ball now.......... My partner told me she was going to get me some dvd's but instead hooked up with her current b.f. (he's an immature ignorant s.o.b to boot). She runs me down at every turn, only cause she has to justify her actions (Mr s.o.b is her 4th indiscretion) and she sees me doing well with the kids. My Dad was never there for me ether, the police actually had to track him down. I was terminal, given less then a week to live at that time. So I wanted to say my goodbye's to my father, only to get told Im not worth the money n time (I had even offered to pay his expenses). My life was all about having fun and working hard before I got sick, so all my work mates disappeared. I even see my surf bud's out back wen Im out for a surf, but they just ignore me. Its so incredibly hard for me to look this skinny and ugly, and like CarlC said "It has certainly made me more aware of other people with disabilities and more compassionate." I truly can see the beauty in even the most disfigured person now, and I do, I constantly find strength everyday from other's like me. I just wish the rest of the world would to............ But now Im finding this massive amount of strength off you guy's, I feel like Im going to start my day with a whole new prospective. Thank you, I really mean that.
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AmandaC
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TJ – My husband would be really happy to know this thread is still going strong and helping people connect with those who have been through the same thing. When he wrote this we were in the thick of our darkest days and to know we were not alone was such an amazing feeling. I also did the online support group and met (online chat) some amazing people, we shared our darkest fears, our good days and bad and I really believe it was pivotal in my healing process. Everyone always assumes our healing is the physical only the emotional stuff takes so much longer. I am lucky my scar is now very faint although people still ask what happened to my neck occasionally, which is incredibly rude but hey I have learned most peoples manners are not what they should be. My husband however has a scar from his chest all the way down to his pelvis and I know he never wants to be without his shirt. So I can only imagine how hard it is for you to bare your scars so openly and people never stop to think about how or why you may have these scars XX As for your ex partner she is immature also she did not just leave you but also her children, really doesn’t say much for her state of mind. She only runs you down to feel better as you say, there is no merit to her actions. I believe in karma she is digging a deep hole there. I always say the best revenge is being the best we can be, you are doing that. Your kids are so lucky to have you . Mum really spent her time ignoring that I existed. I had just had my first baby at the time so I felt really sad that no one was paying attention to our son as well. It really does bring out the best and worst in people, I am glad I know now though because I am now filling my life with real relationships. By that I mean I am not interested in good time friends, I do have some but they remain acquaintances and those I share myself with are those who will be there no matter what. It takes years for our bodies to recover from treatment, I remember 2 years post RAI I woke up and my hair was finally thickening up. It had gotten so thin and scraggly and there was nothing I could do. Sadly with my type of cancer I put on about 20kgs…with that comes some serious self image issues as well. I want to tell you that we do get back to normal, our scars do fade and we are left with the incredible human beings that we have become. We are strong, caring, courageous and best of all we have been blessed with the gift of living for today knowing full well every minute counts. Hope you had a better day today, it is only uphill from here for you XX
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T.J
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Hi guy's n gal,s, I left a post here last night thats disappeared, I dont think it loaded. Anyways I just wanted to let you know, that Im seeing life in a whole new light. I posted yesterday that SteveC should be proud of his scar's, rip his shirt off and strut his stuff! To me there war scar's, something u should be proud of too AmandaC (we fought the most righteous battle). Wat steveC has started here with his post is a selfless act, he opened up and bared his soul, now we're all doing the same. The weight that's been lifted off my shoulder's is just unfathomable believe me. Just the fact I know I can log on here, I wake up milling ...('',)... I've put a lot of thought into the advice I've been given, its help me sort out so much stuff in my head in the last couple of days. I cant help feeling angry at the stuff that's been said to me by the people I once loved. I thought I'd let you guys know something, so u can understand my thinking. When I was 11, my mother my brother's and myself went Christmas shopping. Because we had no car, we where walking to the bus stop. A fatigued driver fell asleep at the wheel and hit my whole family, my mother was killed instantly. I watched the whole thing unfold in front of my feet. From that point in my life I walked alone, foster home to foster home. My father was not fit to take us, he was a very abusive man. This is the reason family means so much to me, probably the only reason I keep the kids mother in there life. What you said AmandaC about her not just leaving me, but she left the kids also.......... Is dead on. I watched my son scream and cry for her in his sleep for hours, for 3 nights. He still has terrible time sleeping, and Ive spent many nights watching him sleep while I cry. I know he's having bad dreams when he's got his fist's clenched. What gets me, is they don't like being with her. Every weekend when she takes one of the kids, they cry some times even beg and try making deals with me not to let them go. Then I have to look this woman in the eye's after she has, left me in my room with the doors shut cause I "cried to much" when I was at my sickest.I don't remember everything about when I was highly medicated, so it scares the hell out of me when something just comes out of nowhere at me. hurts incredibly bad, breaks my heart. I can remember being in bed, needing water and wanting to roll over. But was so sick and weak, that I couldn't even call for help. And she was out on the couch, watching tv and stuffing her face. Or out with her friends cheating on me, in the most hideous ways. Not even trying to hide it, instead showing it off. Telling me "I wished you had just died from it", or telling me to shut up when I woke up late at night crying (it was hard thinking I had been handed a death sentence). Now I feel like I'm getting the strength to just walk away from her alltogther, and just except who and what she is. Start a new life, for my kids sake.
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SILLY
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When I first saw the topic I thought "how is this possible?".Then I realised that although some people,friends and family have been supportive most of my relationships have changed. I have 9 sisters and 2 brothers.My mum is still alive but not my dad. Just before surgery 1 year ago I decided to tell my family mainly as I was possibly going to lose my eye and thought it was better to prepare them. Some have been in constant touch- one brother never yet ,the other one only when I made contact to ask after him and problems he has.One sister visited me as it was convenient for her to see Mum whilst Mum came to stay and I never heard from her since.My husband is and will always be my best friend and still tells me all the time how beautiful I am, despite some disfigurement. I kept my eye but feel that friends' reactions are because of my changed appearance. Some have become closer ,some more distant,some ask how I'm going,others don't. Some seem sincere ,others not. I wonder what some are really thinking sometimes. One said that she had become used to the new me.I appreciated her honesty. It is confusing when thinking about where I stand with some people sometimes. At least many just act as though nothing has changed.Some don't like to ask how things are because it's uncomfortable,others feel they are prying. Sometimes the answers I've given made people uncomfortable ,sometimes I've given the impression all is ok.
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sarah
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Hi everyone, I'd just like to first say that, although I get an email for posts, it takes me a while to think, process, and get over the initial emotional heart response that I have when I read these posts. Everyone's stories are so deep, complex and relate-able. Even though we have different situations, the emotion behind that we all carry, is so very the same. To know TJ that, "The weight that's been lifted off my shoulder's is just unfathomable believe me." is just wonderful. But it comes, for me, also with a tinge of sadness - how are people so alone? How is it so easy for people to forget our connectedness? That a simple comment on a blog from random strangers can restore what real people that we know, have (kind of) taken away, is somehow sad. TJ, your story about your girlfriend is shocking and for me, my heart feels a little bit broken, because I know of similar stories, and again, I just see people that have lost their humanity for others, lost their connection with others, forgotten that we are all connected, forgotten the empathy. It is tragic because from these things come joy and love, and these people - that do such awful things to others - are living in a world a lot more disconnected than us, and a lot more lonely, and I believe also more painful. I'm not saying this as a gesture that you may feel better hearing some promise of retribution for her/their acts, because, I don't believe in punishment or anything as such (although we can all feel vengeful at times which is natural). I say it because it's the sad irony. We live in a world that, if you cannot see something, if it's not there then it doesn't exist. They think because they can hide their stuff, they can keep on pretending. But, it's awful because it just propagates the initial problem of separateness, then we/they only feel more pain. The other stuff about your past I found very interesting as I have a belief that the trauma of my childhood contributed to the illness. I had awful violence, continual domestic disruption moving house and school - in the end recoiling into a shell of apathy, and a reluctance to get on with friends, or anything as we would just move, and a narcissistic mother that sucked the life out of me, and continually emotionally abused and stressed me. I got (and still get) really tired of people linking cancer with anger, because I don't see that I am more angry than others, as well as, I am less than others. I also seem to manage my anger better than some, and maybe not as well as others. It seems such a simplified answer. I always believed it was something else, something to do with stress. I have read something recently that puts forward a similar hypotheses, which I have been exploring. Your situation sounds horrendous, and I hope that you don't feel alone in this also. I really feel for you, and hope that you will feel comfortable to share as much as you need to. We are listening, and with interest.
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